Comments on: What Ticks Me Off The Most About Halvarez

By: Stephen Douglas

Stephen Douglas — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:53:15 +0000

Bulls Eye, Bruce.

By: bruce

bruce — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:47:58 +0000

@Pimp Jason – Thanks, sooner or later a good face will be put forward, no sure when or how but it will happen.

@Stu – Hoping I get a nice pot of money out of it as well, wish I had all my auction data…..

By: Pimp Jason

Pimp Jason — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:37:27 +0000

“The industry is already tainted in many peoples minds because of a lack of understanding and no true face or message being given to the world other than stories like this and now the hole just keeps getting dug deeper for us.”

Couldn’t agree with you more Bruce. There are many people looking from the outside in at our industry, misunderstanding that there are domainers with integrity. The industry is more than just the money factor. We have built countless networks, some of which benefit people. We have networked with one another through our blogs and facebook pages. Some of us may never even meet one another, but we hold a mutual respect for everyone’s contribution to the industry.

All of this goes unseen, because it is not juicy enough for mainstream media to cover.

By: Stu Maloff

Stu Maloff — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:12:31 +0000

Bruce- Great article! I also like Arbel’s idea about uniting our parked domains for a few days to point to an informational web site about domaining. That would only work if the biggest players got involved.
Finally, I am in the exact same situation as JZ. I was the only bidder against Halvarez many times and other auctions in which there were a ton of bidders with Halvarez in the mix. If Vaxis or Ben Franklin did not win, it was usually me. Of course they deleted most of the bidding history and left only the registration history. This is very shady to say the least. If/when this data ever comes back it could have easily been tampered with. If anyone out there randomly printed bid history for patterns before they were removed it may be advantageous to everyone else.
I do not think Snap Names has the resources to refund everyone $50 for every name Halvarez bid on against one person. I am not a lawyer, but would think legally they may have to. If they are paying this 3rd party to handle this situation, they are working out the terms together which is also unethical.
I guess we need to wait a week to see what Snap Names offers us. I am expecting a nice pot of money if they are doing what they say they are planning to do.

By: JZ

JZ — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:12:52 +0000

I won several names in which halvarez was the only other bidder. I am never the first bidder, I wait to see if the domain completly drops and hand register it for a small fee. I have not read what snapnames plans to do in those cases, since I spent much more than I needed to, Is anyone aware of what they plan to do in these type of cases?

By: bruce

bruce — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:47:35 +0000

@Ed – Thanks much. You hit the real question which I am not sure we will ever know, how much money did they profit from this even if it was not intentional…. I would love to see the real numbers. I do commend them on making it as public as they did though, that was a bit of a surprise coming from this industry.

There is a post coming soon I am sure will tick some people off but it is time….. Figure if it ticks a few people off so be it. I have never been good at towing the party line:)

By: bruce

bruce — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:43:57 +0000

@Arbel – I like your thinking! It is about time we starting thinking about how we move the industry forward rather than talking about all the past success and big domain sales.

By: Arbel

Arbel — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:32:31 +0000

We need to find our edge !

If we have all the good domains in the world, so we have a lot of traffic…(Lets unite all the traffic).

What we need to do is point all the domains that are not develop for one week , to a page that gives information about the domain industry.

Thousand and Thousand of people will arrive to this page and will read the true behind domain names.

I suggest (Tia Wood) for the page development.

When you want to win a competition and you have very big opponents, you need to find your Edge.

Hope , this help.

By: Ed

Ed — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:31:30 +0000

You nailed it.
Don’t be shy Bruce.
If domainers don’t want to hear your warning, tough luck.
It’s true, and maybe worse.

Everyone on the “outside” thinks it’s
a closed circle, or clusters of fixed schemes.

Heck the tiny/newer domainers know, er, I mean think it is.

Also, I wonder just how much extra money SnapNames made
with this scumbag driving up auctions?

I’d love to see the inflation charted for everything he didn’t win,
or resold at an artificial value to based on the snapnames final
price effect on perceived equity.